Comments on: Where’s the other Pebble Beach golf club? China, of course http://parforchina.com/745 The development of golf in China | By Dan Washburn Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:50:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Golfer Man http://parforchina.com/745/comment-page-1#comment-2261 Golfer Man Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:01:53 +0000 http://parforchina.com/?p=745#comment-2261 It really doesn't take that much effort to name a golf course something else. You spend millions of dollars building a golf course and you can't take 2 minutes to name it something unique. It really doesn’t take that much effort to name a golf course something else. You spend millions of dollars building a golf course and you can’t take 2 minutes to name it something unique.

]]> By: Robin Moyer http://parforchina.com/745/comment-page-1#comment-2110 Robin Moyer Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:36:23 +0000 http://parforchina.com/?p=745#comment-2110 Dear Dan, A few points: 1. We call it Golden Piddle Beach, because it such a missed opportunity for great golf course architecture. Whether it was the fault of the construction, or the architect: US based Park Planner Peter Thompson bears no relationship to Golfing Great and master architect Peter Thomson and that should always be pointed out. 2. Golden Piddle Beach is never even mentioned at the Golf Digest (China) annual ratings meeting. Never.Some of the holes seem to be designed to obscure the cliffs and ocean views. When I visited the course was in horrible condition, the staff unfriendly, and management was held hostage to the local Korean mafia (all cash taken away each day,never to see its way back into maintenance budget) 3. Information about golf in China for Tom Friedman's story in about golf in China was taken from a long piece by a US golf teacher (rollerbladed around China, Peter something, if I recollect. FYI, I've known Tom since 1982 when we played golf in Beirut. Most recently we played the East Course at Kau Sai Chau in Hong Kong. 4. Maybe North Shore in Liaoning has matured. A links course designed by Walter Woods, for 28 years superintendent at St. Andrews Old Course, and a Japanese developer on a superior cliffside site with views from every hole, a mini version of Old Head, County Cork, which I just visited in June. Regards, Robin Moyer Dear Dan,
A few points:
1. We call it Golden Piddle Beach, because it such a missed opportunity for great golf course architecture. Whether it was the fault of the construction, or the architect: US based Park Planner Peter Thompson bears no relationship to Golfing Great and master architect Peter Thomson and that should always be pointed out.
2. Golden Piddle Beach is never even mentioned at the Golf Digest (China) annual ratings meeting. Never.Some of the holes seem to be designed to obscure the cliffs and ocean views. When I visited the course was in horrible condition, the staff unfriendly, and management was held hostage to the local Korean mafia (all cash taken away each day,never to see its way back into maintenance budget)
3. Information about golf in China for Tom Friedman’s story in about golf in China was taken from a long piece by a US golf teacher (rollerbladed around China, Peter something, if I recollect. FYI, I’ve known Tom since 1982 when we played golf in Beirut. Most recently we played the East Course at Kau Sai Chau in Hong Kong.
4. Maybe North Shore in Liaoning has matured. A links course designed by Walter Woods, for 28 years superintendent at St. Andrews Old Course, and a Japanese developer on a superior cliffside site with views from every hole, a mini version of Old Head, County Cork, which I just visited in June.

Regards,
Robin Moyer

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